meanwhile harry reid said this is all doa. i'm not agreeing to this anyway even if they pass it both sides have dug their heels in, have they not? >> both sides have dug their heels. in i think the president is working very hard behind the scenes to try to make something happen. let's remember this. in 2008, george bush needed a package passed that would rescue the economy. many republicans were not in favor of it in the house. it was a democratically controlled house. the democrats passed that because they understood the consequences of not passing it. folks decide no increase tax pledge better remember they took an oath to -- an oath that supersedes that to do their duty and defend the constitution of the united states. we have got people and it's on both sides, laura, i would agree. people on both sides being unreasonable and i believe and the president believes there are enough people in both parties that can come together in the middle. >> laura: here is what harry reid said though. we don't know what's going on behind cl